The price jump?

topic posted Mon, March 24, 2008 - 8:49 PM by  Clinton
Here is question to all the people who have been in the scene for a long time. It seems that you can get a pretty great didge for about 500 to 1200. But then you have a jump up to 2000 to 3000 for what some are calling super didges so here is my question is it worth it and what makes them super?


Namaste
posted by:
Clinton
Washington
  • Re: The price jump?

    Mon, March 24, 2008 - 8:54 PM
    You should only pay what they are worth to you.
    • Re: The price jump?

      Mon, March 24, 2008 - 9:46 PM
      Yeah but if you are going to go buy a car you take a car expert with you to tell you what it is really worth. Now that does not invalidate your opinion but it allows you to look at the purchase with a little more reality. What is your opinion on the matter are the sticks worth it and if so how come?


      Namaste
      • Re: The price jump?

        Tue, March 25, 2008 - 12:42 AM


        Which sticks are you talking about?

        As in all things it depends on the source.
        • Re: The price jump?

          Tue, March 25, 2008 - 11:27 AM
          Clinton, I don't mean to be boastful but I think I make some pretty awesome didges comparatively. I've also got a goal of making excellent didges available at reasonable costs, so most everything I make goes for under $400 as I'm only out to make a living, not a killing, and I assume I will actually make more money by putting more sticks out there for less money rather than less sticks for more. I notice these 'super didges' to be coming out of Australia and honestly I think it's just a head game. Last year I sent some sticks off to didgeridoobreath.com in Australia where they were posted and sold very quickly for $795 each. I wouldn't even normally make didges as small and compact as the ones I sent to them but International shipping costs are outrageous so I had made these up as a special order. I think I make my best sticks in the 65 to 75 inch range and if I had sent them those instead it would have made that short batch look like silly toys. How much could they have fetched for my normal didges? Compared to the market for my shorties I'd say easily well over a thousand a piece, but that's the Aussie market and it seems like the inflated prices are reserved for Australia and Europe. To compare apples to apples, since I make split and hollowed I'll point out Eddy Halat. Eddy is a good crafter who pays a lot of attention to the artwork. I've been unimpressed with the sound quality of sticks of his that were priced at over $2000. Maybe I wouldn't have been so unimpressed if they had a tag of $300. I certainly wouldn't have let a friend buy it for over $400. A German guy last year ordered a stick from me after having been disappointed with a stick that Eddy had made for him at outrageous expense. I was very nervous to be providing a stick to someone with such a discriminating taste but even with the difficulty of describing the sound qualities he was after (and his English wasn't that good) I guess I nailed it on the first try and the guy was very very excited when he got it. I remember reading that JOL in Hawaii had put over $1,000 in stones into a didge he was making, and I'm sure well over a hundred hours. He could have made that same stalk play with the same tonal qualities in less than ten hours and with less than $10 invested but it was the pursuit of the art of it that the purchaser would eventually have to shell out several thousand dollars for, propably still leaving JOL short handed for his efforts. The point I'm trying to make is that the 'super didge' market is there as a carrot for those willing to chase it in an attempt to create a new elite market. In the U.S. I'd say that Jeff Lore and Tyler Spencer both produce didges worthy of our version of 'super didges' because not only are their ears impeccable but their craftsmanship is unmatched. I have unending respect for their abilities yet I sometimes find myself gazing in awe at the roughest Aboriginal didges with sharp uneven mouthpieces and thinking to myself that 'this is the real deal' and we American didgecrafters are like a bunch of furniture makers concerned that every detail be exact. If you ride a $4,000 ten speed and drive a Hummer you undoubtably need a super didge. If money is no object for you I'd reccomend you spend it on excellent Aboriginal didges with excellent artwork so at least you're getting something of value (the artwork). If what you're after is the best playing didges you can get your hands on either travel to Australia to try them out yourself or come to the U.S. didge festivals this summer and compare numerous sticks side by side. In my opinion, only a fool would pay out over a $1000 for something he couldn't even try first.
          • Re: The price jump?

            Tue, March 25, 2008 - 5:23 PM
            Thats why didjshop gets my goat. They charge about $2000 from a "concert" didge. What the hell is a concert didge anyway. My favorte didges at the jamming tree where moogelys yucca's. Blonskys Yuccas are great too and I even bought one and it served my nicely. Yucca is underrated in my opinion but thats just me. But for $250 you can get a yucca that plays better then some $1000 Euc form didjshop.
            And Chad, it is so great for what you are doing.
            • Re: The price jump?

              Tue, March 25, 2008 - 5:42 PM
              It is important for buyers to know that the instruments Didjshop sells are in no way traditional. They are mass produced, tourist grade sticks. The few I have had the misfortune of repairing for people, were of terrible quality. Needless to say they were also quite expensive. Buyer beware.
              • Re: The price jump?

                Tue, March 25, 2008 - 5:56 PM
                I played a Naiuwa at the JT and it played really good. The sell for under $500 and when they are more its the artwork you are paying for. Most of the time they are under $350.
          • Re: The price jump?

            Tue, March 25, 2008 - 9:41 PM
            I have to say this is exactly what I needed to hear. Sometimes my passion and my hardheadedness get in the way of my good sense what little I have. You bring up the very points that I have been struggling with for a good long time and that is that only an idiot would spend that much money on a instrument he has yet to play. I would like to come down for the In Didj In Us this year the JT is just to far away for me at least this year. Are you going to have a good amount of crafters at the In Didj In Us this year? I was also wondering me and my fiancée are going to be going on vacation out in Depoe Bay in a couple of months do you have a shop or something I could stop by at and kind of look over what you have? I know you do the split and hollow method what are some of the characteristics of the different woods that you use? Like how do they express themselves in the sound and how do they differ from Eucalyptus as far as sound goes? I know a lot of questions any help or answers you could provide would be greatly appreciated.


            Namaste
            • Re: The price jump?

              Wed, March 26, 2008 - 7:07 AM
              Yep, thats the best way to buy a didge(and that goes for all instruments) and that is to play them first. Its all a matter of taste, and and you get to try out almost every kind of stick. Some are even very bizzare whick makes it even more fun. Your playing skills will improve too.
            • Re: The price jump?

              Wed, March 26, 2008 - 7:12 AM
              Pay whatever you feel the instrument is worth to you.

              That said, I personally would have a difficult time justifying two or three thousand dollars for a didgeridoo UNLESS it was gold plated, diamond-studded, and played by itself. :)

              There are many quality instruments available for what I believe are reasonable and fair prices for the materials and time invested by the crafters... two whom have posted on this thread. :)
          • Re: The price jump?

            Wed, April 2, 2008 - 4:00 AM
            Lets keep in mind chad has never seen or played a JOL didjeridoo while I point out that his comments are again based on assumption.
          • Re: The price jump?

            Wed, April 2, 2008 - 4:05 AM
            10 hours and 10 bucks to match a pipestone interior chad? Put your money where your mouth is cuz... I'll be sporting and bet $1000 against that silly claim. Anyone else in? (if this is legal of course)
            • Re: The price jump?

              Wed, April 2, 2008 - 8:51 AM
              where do you show your didges? The only place I've been able to find them is through your bio here on tribe. I can understand hippies selling bamboo sticks at the beach for $20-$50 but your sticks are in a whole different price range than the casual impulse buyer. I think one reason for the seemingly tough feelings is that you make a strong voice here on tribe yet you're nowhere else in the didge community that we see. There are didge festivals that would be a great venue for showing your work, and the networking that would result would be of far greater value than just the sales opportunity. I think one of the best aspects of the didge biz here in the U.S. is that it's still just a young market that's totally open to whatever ethics and practices we choose to set in place. The didge gatherings have been an incredible opportunity for all these would be competitors to get together and become best friends, sharing information in the process and growing our skills at a faster rate than would be happening if we were all to keep to our cocoons.
              If you happen to make it to either In-Didj-In-Us or JT didgefest this year I'll honor your bet, we'll leave two didges against a tree with a voting pad and whoevers stick gets the most votes gets a thousand bucks from the other, and if you win I'll also re-imburse you your plane fare.
  • Re: The price jump?

    Thu, April 3, 2008 - 8:02 AM
    I have the luxury of living in LA and having access to LA Outback (so sad The Didgeridoo Store moved :( ) But just for me, good for them. So I tend to just drive up to Barry's and play everything in the store. I try not to look at the price until I have an idea what I want and usually I can find a handful of great instruments in the $300-600 range. The most expensive didge (yidaki) I have was $1200 and I bought that as a collector.

    Now, aside from the collector, I could care less what anyone thinks of my sticks. I buy them to further my ability to create crazy sounds and entertain. If I find a $100 didge that fits my playing style I'll buy it. If I play a $2k stick that completely blows me away, I probably still wouldn't buy it because it's likely I could find something around $600 that does the same thing, or close to it. Now, if it was my perfect instrument (which is hard in a didge, why ya think we have so many?) hey, why not? I already have a room full of sticks (One of which is a Chad Butler piece I love, thanks bro) what's another $2k!!!

    Oh wait, it's another $2k!! Are you serious? I didn't even know they went that high.

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